So. blogger will not allow adult content after the 23rd. In that case, I have a few options.
First of all. here is my first attempt at using mediocre, ill-informed HTML on Tumblr.
http://kyrieru.tumblr.com/
To use Tumblr, I would have to use some third party comment system. Posting is also kind of annoying. Overall it's just far more limited than Blogger. (At least, in terms of how I use it)
What I could do, since I barely ever post adult content on the "blog" section of this site, is just use Blogger like I do now, but make all the links at the top of the page lead to the uncanny-valley Tumblr versions of the site.
Until the around the 23rd. though, there isn't really any reason to make the switch.
Also, I never even got an email from google, myself. Thanks for that, google -__-
I've gotta say, out of all the Other Devs, I'd have to say game is the best. They do real solid work. game is an honorable mention.
ReplyDeleteI think Tumblr's better in terms of sharing content so you might get a bigger audience and publicity on there if you tag work/art/WIPs appropriately. I'm personally happy to see you go on Tumblr because it's easier to see you a long with the other artists/users I follow.
ReplyDeleteTumblr's limited compared to Blogger, yes but I've still seen very professional pages and such when used right. I kind of think it makes you site look more "stand alone" or independent.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll do fine either way. Good luck, and I hope you learn Tumblr a bit more so you can expand your business.
You might try blog.com, they don't have any policy against adult content. And it looks to be a pretty robust system as well. Checking into it myself.
ReplyDelete(mayaktheunholy.blog.com)
Hey, I just followed you on Tumblr using my NSFW account but here's a few tips for you in case you aren't familiar with Tumblr (sorry if you are because this might sound patronizing, oops):
ReplyDelete- Use tags on posts you want to get attention for. You can use up to 5 tags that will actually become valid but tags after 5th tag won't let your post appear on those tagged pages. Tags can still be used freely on your main blog page though no matter how many.
- Customising your public profile is advised. People on Tumblr will mainly see content on their "Dash" so although you can impress newer people with a nice looking page, the ones already following you might only see your stuff along with the other people they follow. (Obvious, I know but had to say it) Just give yourself a public avatar and customise the public background so people can view what kind of blog you are.
- Activate your Ask Box. Honestly this is completely optional and you can choose whether you want Anons be allowed like usual but it's a useful messaging system if you want people to see you answers publicly or privately.
- I'm sure a lot you can figure out yourself but just use it how you please. Like just chill out lol and follow who you want. I really think you can publicise your content really well using Tumblr and just show people you're a good guy to follow and just be welcome (not saying you're not of course)
- Oh, one more thing. Really important imo but Tumblr can be a MESS sometimes when they release new/unwanted updates. Do a quick Google search or whatever and get an extension called "XKit".
Basically everyone uses it because it makes using Tumblr 500% more comfortable. You'll just have to trust me when I say it makes things so much better. If Tumblr does something to make the site weird, XKit Guy comes along to save the day with his custom fixes. Seriously.
I hope to see your work more on Tumblr. I think your Blogger will be fine really but just to make sure I guess.
Well, it all depends if I want to be found or not. Honestly, I'm perfectly content with people finding my blog because of links to it, or searching my name, as opposed to stumbling across it.
Deletehttp://i.gyazo.com/4dbdc39cbe65e9e55506ceba51cca19f.png
ReplyDeleteI know you just started but I'd advise adding an avatar and other things too, y'know?
I suppose it was inevitable.
ReplyDeleteIt's amusing to see eroge makers and crazy social justice warriors being forced to stay in the same website now. Time to dive in, I guess.
Yeah, I've had a Tumblr for a while now but it's easy to avoid them. Just don't follow anyone who posts their bullshit.
DeleteIf you go onto Tumblr purely for content creators like artists, then it's really the best thing out there, it feels great. If you use it for otherwise or stumble into some nasty atmosphere, then you ain't gonna have a fun time...
You could try wordpress. It's easy enough to use if you're used to blogger.
ReplyDeleteI spent the first half of of the morning setting up my Tumblr. it's actuary not that bad, but you kind of have to put it together. Where as Bogger has a prefab and easy mod interface.
ReplyDeleteSome notes that might help.
To have commenting like blogger dose you pretty much have to set up a 3ed party account with https://disqus.com/ and use the account from there for your mod tools.
If you like looking at statics you have to sign up for Google google analytics.
There are tuts on how to do the above on Tumbr
Sorry about mssng etters my keyboard s broke :(
Mmm...right, I suppose should look into third party analytics.
DeleteIf Google wants to drive away another part of its user-base, that's on them...
ReplyDeleteI'm actually glad to see the move though, moving the site to Tumblr could help you get more publicity just by being there. Looking good so far, and I was pleasantly surprised by named comments without submitting information or using an account still being allowed...
The site is pretty versatile once you get used to it. Stay away from the drama explosions and everything should work out just fine.
I don't think you post all that much actual adult content. I think you're fine. Just be careful with screenshots and sketches I guess.
ReplyDeleteI hope my blogger site won't get shot down. The admin tools were really handy. Looks like I'll have some cleaning up to do.
ReplyDeleteI suppose I should set up another dev journal some place else as insurance, in case I don't make it past March 23rd.
Why not Wordpress? Quite a few hentai game groups use it.
ReplyDeleteFree version has ads.
DeleteAh, that's a shame. In terms of visitor and admin interface as well as content management I prefer blogger over tumblr by vast amounts; it seems I always like Google's services more until they do something stupid and screw it up for a minority of people.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of attention I can't deny that tumblr would reach a wider audience, although I dislike the cpanel over there (it's designed more for accessibility than practical use.) If you're going for something a little more professional, WordPress is a pretty good option - I've been using it to set up my portfolio and it handles static pages and themes well (the blogging part is well-covered too.) It seems like for a site such as yours, that serves not only as a blog but also a landing page for all of your products, WP would be a decent choice.
If anything I strongly urge you not to split content between here and an auxiliary location, as that's the fastest way to lose an audience. Convenience is highly desired in today's day and age, and having to visit two separate sites buts a wall between your content and audience. If you're going with tumblr I'd say go all the way.
On a side note, how much HTML do you know? I'm still working on CSS and spacing for design, but I feel pretty confident with text-based tags and could try and help if you wish. I learned the same way you mentioned, by copying code in other websites and breaking it apart until I could get it to do what I wanted. XD
--Nathaniel
I'm not really worried about splitting content, because content on Tumblr would be the same as clicking on the "Kurovadis" tab above. Content here wouldn't really change, because I generally don't post 18+ content anyway. (out of all my posts, I've done it like twice.)
DeleteAs for HTML, I don't know enough to do something from scratch, but I know enough that I can look up individual functions that I need, and use them correctly.
Well I guess that's okay, as most of the people who follow your work are diehard fans. I think we're all eager to see you get the recognition and appreciation you deserve, and sometimes we may overstep what you're actually comfortable with. In the end it doesn't matter which site you use as long as you keep making games. ;D
DeleteI also don't mind this site staying the primary place for updates because, well, I hate tumblr, 'nuff said.
I can't really write code from scratch either... taking a visualization of how you want the page to look and translating it into actual code takes a completely different kind of thinking on the "design" aspect, as opposed to simply "knowledge" of the language.
Well, what I'd do is this. When you click on Kurovadis, at the top, instead of bringing you here,
Deletehttp://www.kyrieru.com/p/kurovadis_10.html
It would bring you here,
http://kyrieru.tumblr.com/kurovadis
And clicking home on that page would bring you back here. I may also make the appearance of this blog match that one, since that one is based more on my own html, except the post part, so I could use it anywhere.
Yeah, that's how I figured it would work - static pages would be housed somewhere else like tumblr, with the blog still retaining the same function. Switching the URLs should be a snap, it's just a matter of moving all the content. >.>
DeleteI haven't checked the content policy in a while, but it should be fine to simply link to tumblr posts, right? I think Google just has a problem with adult content being hosted on their platform, which is why they keep tightening the restrictions on content. Still, better to be safe and save backups anyways. D:
I would be careful about linking tumblr to this page, as that gives a link for people to make there way here.
DeleteThe first part is a good idea, making it so clicking Kurovadis here brings you to the tumblr Kurovadis site, however, if you make it so hitting home on tumblr brings people back here, you could end up with 'SJW'(Social Justice Warrior) on this site making trouble. If there is one thing I have learned, people who want to troll, and people who want to cause trouble will always make time to do so. If one 'SJW' member goes here, I am willing bet they will invite their friends to harass and attack you, and anyone else that joins. It would be a double edged sword, people will join for the games you have, and people will join to fight the games.
Aw, crap. Though, haven't they already tried to shut down adult content a couple times already? Or am I thinking of a different dev site...
ReplyDeleteIf you do have to switch, sounds like a good idea to just use this one to notify people of updates on tumblr, or maybe ulmf. Or hope they don't notice you, as they didn't send an email. ;)
Tumblr is kind of complete shit. The format is absolute garbage because it's tied in with our new wave net culture of "hey look at what I found" and "hey yeah that's pretty neat +LIKE". You can't have a coherent conversation with many people at once because the system is founded on people posting things to tumblr and people sharing said posts through tumblr. There's no comment section communication.
ReplyDeleteHe literally just made a comment section using it, where on earth have you been?
DeleteSharing isn't a bad thing. It's more publicity and advertisement. He even added a live chat if you actually go onto his Tumblr. No it's not easy to use as Blogger but the actual "blogging" part of it is still their in full entirety. People mainly use the sharing "hey yeah that's pretty neat +LIKE" part of it, yeah, but it doesn't look like you actually checked out what he's got so far in progress.
It's basically got the exact same features as this blog if you look at the link he put.
He managed to make a comments feature, I'll give you that, but the site is still primarily shit. It's a lot harder to do the simple things blogs do because tumblr isn't meant to do any more than post pictures and text and have other people share those pictures and snippets of text. It's somewhere between a blog and a twitter and it's clunky as fuck for the uploader if all they wanted to do was make a blog.
DeleteExcept he's stated that he doesn't intend to run tumblr as a blog... instead it's just an alternate place for the actual adult content to be posted. If things work out Kyrieru would still be posting updates here.
DeleteAnd nothing you've said has proved that Tumblr is a shitty site. Only that it's inferior for certain purposes.
DeleteTumblr doesn't have comments for a reason, and it results in discussion of a different format. Is it always better? Of course not, it's just an alternative, and sometimes it can be awful. But saying that Tumblr is shitty compared to blogger is like saying a fridge is shitty compared to a freezer.
I'd say Tumblr is a good idea, as it will bring a lot of exposition in your stuff, problem is that it can also bring unwanted attention, from SJWs specially. Aside from that tagging your stuff can make it widespread like wildfire and you'll probably get more people interested in Noaika and the upcoming games.
ReplyDeleteAlso searching for Kyrieru brings my blog as the second result, whoopsie daisy
Well, with Tumblr, it all depends if I actually want to be found or not. In many ways, I'm better off staying under the rader, where the only people who come to my blog are people who are familiar with my work. If there were more stable services for adult content, and if people weren't so sensitive about rape in fantasy, I'd probably try to get my name out there more than I do. (Which is not at all.)
ReplyDeleteIt's so weird to think that most people are OK with violence, torture and murder while sex and it's fetishes are considered maximum taboo. I think Offbeatr offers a platform for selling adult games, not sure though
DeleteOffbeatr takes a cut. I mean alternatives to things like paypal.
DeleteJust want to point out that SJW people are actually pretty easy to avoid as long as you avoid generic tags such as "rape" (considering other people would probably post sensitive and personal stuff understandably) just use narrower tags like "NSFW" which already strikes out anyone who doesn't want to see pornographic content. Other tags like Ero Game or something is fine too. Trust me, do a tag search on Tumblr related to a popular H Game and you will rarely see someone using the tag that hates the genre if any one at all.
DeleteLast time I checked, even Violated Heroine only showed people who liked the stuff using the tag.
In short: just use audience specific tags and you should be fine. People won't find your content unless they want to.
I'd suggest you use your own tags on Tumblr (#kyrieru only has a handful of posts and all of them are about your content) and, if you want to advertise, make accounts on some of the h-game/ryona forums out there.
DeleteAlso, you should slap a warning label on your blog somewhere. There are more than a few people on Tumblr who've had traumatic experiences regarding rape or sexual assault, and they'd probably appreciate a big "CONTENT WARNING" sign. Be respectful, though.
Delete@ #kyrieru comment: Yeah, that makes sense. I'll keep that in mind. As for forums, I already do that. However I don't advertise, I just show up whenever a forum posts about my game.
DeleteI guess a warning label like "this blog contains sexual imagery and violence, all characters depicted are 18+" could do wonders not only for any visitor but also to stay away from the banhammer. Your drawing style could bring doubt as to whether or not the characters are adults so it's always a good idea to be covered.
DeleteDefinitely. Kyrieru has a very cute style but that can lead to misunderstandings on his actual content. You'll certainly have to say "Characters are depicted as 18+" because in terms of getting taken down, that's the real problem when it came to other famous NSFW users.
DeleteNot sure if you've heard of Noill but he had his account taken down until he made a new one because of young looking adults. He now has the "Characters are 18+" label in the description to avoid that happening again.
"All characters depicted on this site are 60+"
DeleteThat should throw them off.
perfect.
DeleteTumblr is full of teenagers who think they're the next hot nu-wave thing because they're young and the site is new and they're so goddamn creative and special pansexual trisexual snowflakes who preach love and unity and if you don't love every single misunderstood unique special creative hair on their every ass cheek then they'll drink from your fucking skull. It's often a battle of "who's the most snowflake out of the special special snowflakes". But you can ignore them and, even better, intentionally piss them off, to no definite consequence, because unless you give them a pre-made online petition that spams your local senator about the endangered penguin epidemic, they are literally incapable of doing anything productive.
DeleteSounds like you have a very un-productive outlook.
DeleteIf in your eyes, if there is no consequence for ignoring them, then you have no reason to "intentionally piss them off". It doesn't help you, and it doesn't change them, assuming that's what you would want.
While we may scoff at those who become outraged over stupid things, it's often because of comments like yours that phrase everything like a declaration of war and make them feel like they should defend themselves, lest your views spread. Is Tumblr fill of teenagers? Sure, the world is. But the last thing you want is a lot of pissed off teenagers growing up into pissed off adults. While the backlash won't hurt you, there are plenty of rational, cool people on either side who will get caught in the cross-fire.
OK gotta rant for a bit....
DeleteI always roll my eyes when I hear the term, “this character is 18+”.
I find it just ludicrous that someone can point at the fictional person and say “that character is an adult!”, in real world context.
I can understand that some topics may make some people uncomfortable and it reassures them when they can convince themselves they aren't doing anything horrible.
But I have to ask myself, do these people feel guilt when they play a FPS?
Do they feel the need to have a public inquiry and investigation with every "person" they shoot?
When they play an assassin and kill some fictional character that, by common moral standards doesn't deserve to die, do they run to their local police dept to turn themselves in for murder?
When playing GTA, do they feel guilty about ripping away “someones” personal property that they worked hard for and will have to go through a whole bunch of hassle and insurance claims and miss work/family time to get back?
It's a fictional character that dose not exist. The link between real life crimes and fictional media has never been proven to actually create theses issues.
Is Archie still a teenager? Should someone feel like a bad person if they still have a crush on Penny (inspector gadget) and Velma (schooby-doo) even though they grew up with them?
Why should someone be seriously offended if a fictional characters is sexually assaulted when they just beat up that old lady for her car, shot that “combatant” in an active “war zone”, and silenced that cleaner to get his key to the objective?
Some people gotta give their head a shake......
/rant
why dont you sue fc2 as your new blog?
ReplyDeleteI'm going to take a look later. I need to work, though, given that I've spent the past two days messing with blog stuff as it is. (I'm not exactly good at HTML -___-)
DeleteGoogle apparently backtracked and will only be cracking down on "commercial" explicit content like those blogs that pirate and redistribute porn.
ReplyDeleteDo you have a link to this source? I'm just looking for the precise wording, because depending on the definition of "commercial" Kyrieru does technically supply commercial explicit content. Either way as long as the pages for downloads and game screenshots are off-site it won't be a problem.
DeleteNot original anon but here is the link to the bbc article: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31659669
DeleteThanks for the heads up.
DeleteHow about using pixiv? It's time for you to invade japan (gain more japanese fans).
ReplyDeleteIt might work. On one hand the Japanese are incredibly supportive of pornographic material and will more likely purchase said material. On the other hand, the Japanese absolutely hate Americans in that market because we primarily steal more porn than we purchase, and the amount we actually purchase is SUPER small when it comes to Japanese porn. We're "those fucking Russians that keep pirating our shit." Because buying porn is culturally more taboo in the states, so we would rather download it illicitly than leave any form of paper trail leading to the purchase of said content. English DLsite helps address the issue of Western accessability to said content, which does indeed help, but we really just don't like to pay for our porn.
DeleteI would have to have better work before going on Pixiv
DeleteEven though Blogger backed down, I think that it's good thing that Ky has another outlet now. It lowers the risk of disappearing and making reconnecting with fans a lot easier if Blogger goes tits up by a great deal.
ReplyDeleteBlogger has cancelled their statement, so you are safe again ;)
ReplyDeleteHere is an article for the above statement of Blogger retracting the ban.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2477475,00.asp
I further read the article just now lol... seems they said the ban will only go for those making money off of porn.. so if you are still effected or not I do not know.
DeleteThe end of the article is referring to the monetized ad use ban, as in you cannot have ads you get payed for on a blog.
Deletenow nsfw stuff just fine on blogger
ReplyDeletejust don't make it like a R18 av film site