Sunday, January 31, 2016
So what now?
Once again, I'm of the state of mind where I wish I could properly explain my situation, but finding the words seems impossible. So, instead of wasting your time trying to describe the pulses in my brain running into brick walls, I'll just go over the information that actually matters.
Also, I apologize for my absence from the comments recently.
Patreon Animations
For the past month I've had absolutely no drive to work on Patreon animations at all. There's no use fooling myself into thinking that it's a disinterest that will pass. Before I close the Patreon, I'll finish everything I have an obligation to finish (with extras being based on the number of animations I've done)
After that, I may do animations every so often, even if it's not as a Patreon. But I won't be going back to the weekly thing. Oh, and I'll check who won the voting and open a poll tomorrow.
Weekly Game
I need to work on something that will help me renew my motivation, and allow me to explore ideas that are impossible with Noaika. Animation is great, but games are where my heart is, and Noaika has been my focus for so long that while it will be amazing to finish it, getting there isn't as exciting as it used to be, and there's other stuff I want to do while I work on it.
I'll be making it with the intention of updating it weekly. It may be a Patreon thing, or it may not be. Dunno yet.
Secret game
So, I sent out an unlock code on Patreon a while back,
Way before I ever did the Patreon (almost a year ago now), I worked on an H-game during my free time while still working on Noaika. It originally started as a "let's make something simple in a week!" sort of thing but only got as far as one level. As time went on, I worked on it here and there, and almost finished it. However once I started the Patreon and it took more time and energy than I originally anticipated, the game fell to the wayside, and I never got around to finishing it. I figured I'd pick it back up at some point.
So, in the next month I want to try to finish it. I sent out the unlock code then in case some of the people quit the Patreon at some point.
Once it's done, everyone who pre-ordered Noaika will get it for free, and anyone who supported the Patreon will get it for free (I'll send out the code again soon on Patreon for new Patrons, and anyone who left can email me to get it).
The game is about the size of Eroico, or a little bigger (and with much better H-animations), so I'll charge $4 for it if it ends up having no CGs, or $5 if it does.
Other than that, that's about it. Sorry for being dumb, and sorry that I'm probably going to keep being dumb for a while. Someday Noaika will be done and I'll take new steps, but until then being in the midst of such a big project isn't easy. But it will be done.
Anyhow, thanks for watching.
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Oh, an extra game for preordering? I'm guessing it's too late by now? xD
ReplyDeleteIt's funny that you're like, "Sorry it's taking so long, here's a bonus game I'm been kinda secretly making that's probably better then 99.9% of the drivel that's been coming out in the H-Community lately, SORRY!"
ReplyDeleteThis looks promising, *throws his money* this blog needs a like and dislike button lol
ReplyDeleteOoh, a second game? I wish I had pre-ordered... oh well, if it is longer than Eroico and has even better animation $5 might be too cheap hahahaha.
ReplyDeleteWell , I had many of unfinished stuff myself.
ReplyDelete-interesting stuff to start , then found another interesting one , keep losing drive to fullfill and left it unfinished.
is there anything we can do?
Don't be depressed about it, I also think a game can be more fun to observe gradually growing... Hope it can give you more of a drive, lloking forward to any plans and sketches :)
ReplyDeleteJust curious , If Noaika will have bigger sprite , did bigger sprite will make background look narrowed?
ReplyDeletehttp://i.imgur.com/8eqGn4i.jpg
she grows soo fast T_T
DeleteThey seem to be missing some viagra down in the right corner (´・ω・`)
DeleteThe backgrounds and layouts are all completely different, at this point.
DeleteThere are a few that I sort of edited or used as a base, but there's only one or two that have been left unchanged.
Will we see a new Noaika demo with the updated assets anytime this year?
DeletePublic, not patron only I mean.
Keep up the good work regardless, and don't push yourself too much when you lack motivation.
Is it still possible to pre-order Noaika?
ReplyDeleteNah, there isn't really a reason to.
DeleteEven though I don't support you via Patreon, still think you should keep it active.
ReplyDeleteInstead of "selling" it as weekly H animations, just reword it as random art releases and go back to the 1$ tier, no stress solution.
You will then be free to just release stuff when you feel like it and people that want to support you that way, can.
Just my opinion anyway....
I've been where you are at with other things in my life. It's easy in the the first 50% of a project, to add on another 200% work with new ideas and it's exciting, but it is such a chore to get through that last 100% (since now the job is 250% of the original plan).... Key is to sometimes just to table it for the next time. It's far better to keep to the original vision with only a few small additions along the way, then to make it so big you dont have the steam to finish.
ReplyDeleteWhat I generally do is think about a game as if it were the first in a trilogy, and try to focus on what defines the game, as opposed to the fluff that could be in any game, and a feature of a sequel.
DeleteWith Noaika, I just wanted to go all out for once and make something "complete". At the very least, after it's over and done with, it will have served as a good learning experience, and everything else is going to seem like a walk in the park.
And find some clever girls in the park.
Deletehttp://i.imgur.com/VOQcchg.jpg?1
Take it easy Ky. Take a step back from development and relax for a while. Do some other things you like. Then come back to this.
ReplyDeleteI find it funny people say this and the instant he disappears for sometime everyone thinks he's dead. Not disagreeing with you I feel he needs some break but at the same time sometimes you just got to power on through the moments you run out of steam.
DeleteI was never one of the crybabies. Why should he force himself? For you? Let him do things the way he wants to and leave if you can't stand that.
DeleteHad a lil to much salt or something? Learn to read man nothing in there said nothing of me of not being able to stand it. I've been where he's been starting so many projects and never finishing or taking forever. I either take a breaks or just power on through it. However, if you always take breaks every single second you feel a bit tired shit gets done slow and is can just end up making working on it feel more tedious. I was just making a very true fact of life.
DeleteAnyway I was being facetious of the whole thing sorry for somehow being offensive.
"I refuse to do work on this game I expect people to pay me for, and I refuse to work on things I promised people would be done weekly because I care literally zero about my fanbase. Please feel bad for me in the comment section and try to shame those that see me for the lying, deceitful, untrustworthy little worm that I am so I can boost my ego while trying to work on eight projects at once even though just one is too many for me." - Kyrieru
ReplyDeleteOnce again I think we should all be thankful that Anon42 and people like HentaiWriter are out there, so we can have devs to look to when we need to see people that care about their product and actually want it to succeed.
Cool. Go play their games then.
DeleteAnon42 is a sellout. Makes maple hentai and then drops it.
Deleteso your saying the dev that made a game with sprites that look like the rick and morty style and the other dev who is working on game that looks it was made in flash and runs just as smoothly? (and that the main dev belives hes making an actual compelling story and universe, while the other two people are the ones doing the actual work?) i mean if thats what you like man, me on the other hand i like good stuff?
DeleteSorry but Kyrieru is still by far the Number One Super Star of Sidescrolling H-games. I just hope he releases something this decade :(
DeleteOkay.. While I appreciate that you enjoy my work, I would much rather people don't go around comparing developers against each other. We're all making our own stuff; me and HentaiWriter have a monthly obligation to deliver content via Patreon, so we do our best to meet that. Kyrieru has an obligation to deliver Noaika because of pre-orders, but he HAS offered refunds to everybody who is unhappy with the speed of his work, and from the beginning he always said it would be done when it's done and that he isn't going to force himself to finish it by a deadline. I follow the same principle, really - I refuse to determine a deadline, the only real difference is that people donate to me every month, so I give them frequent content and updates as a thank you. It's just two different styles of development.
Delete"Anon42 is a sellout. Makes maple hentai and then drops it."
Glad to know you literally follow none of my work. Making maple hentai became soul-sucking to me; after I lost the project files for MapleSim, I had no creative drive to EVER return to mapletai. I didn't start Crisis Point so I could make money, I started it because I was inspired and I wanted to put my creativity towards something original, and bigger. Sorry if me not doing what you want pisses you off, but "sellout" is the last thing to describe it.
"a game with sprites that look like the rick and morty style"
Thanks, asshole. Way to insult somebody who's working hard for literally no reason. You're shitting on me (and HW) because somebody insulted your favorite dev and used me as an example - why don't you redirect that at the guy who actually pissed you off, instead of dragging somebody else through the mud for no reason?
okay anon42 real talk, firstly im sorry for my comment about the style, i feel it would have been better if i said what i thought of your game directly to you, but i will still have to say that being someone who draws and practices anatomy, theyre some stuff you could improve, now to hentaiwriter, kudos to the two people who work for him, HW on the other hand not so much, hes the type of person who is kinda dillusional, hes never made a game,yet he speaks likes hes worked on several games already, i dont understand why he acts that way, in anycase im sorry again for the comment and i hope theres a way i can make it up to you, that is all
DeleteYou would certainly be the most qualified to speak of being -delusional-. Since you're all for cheap shots sans consequence, by the by, the comments section has a spellcheck, and there are special keys for capitalization... as well as punctuation beyond commas. Which is rather absurd, given that your feeble whining at the work ethic of content creators is done so LAZILY... but I suppose that it must be difficult to much see irony when one's head has passed the sphincter.
Delete"Someone who draws"? "Practices anatomy"? Ignoring the grammatical implications of the latter, what person on the planet can't claim to 'have drawn before'? Let alone how delusional one must be to think that claims of competence have any place when posing as -Anonymous-. But even if we were to follow your insane troll logic there, what exactly do you know about sprite work? Animation? Game Design? Music?
When you -do not- make anything, you have no place insulting how others -do-. As a consumer, you are only qualified to comment on whether a purchase was worth the money. Considering that the animations were -free-, the Patreon was opt-in, and that the games themselves are literally the lowest increment of 5 that exists... honestly, how can you blame people for their surprise when someone like you decides that a free meal wasn't delivered fast enough?
To clarify, this is a collective reply to however many anons were in this comment chain-- two? To address the foremost more specifically, however:
"I've never actually created anything myself, and I'd certainly never pay for anything I could find a way to steal online, but because I want something from this person, I'll call myself a fan as an excuse to feel outraged. Please join my childish whining as I don't get my free, high-quality, fully featured hentai game fast enough to justify the attention of the great and glorious me: lord of the internet by merit of posting an anonymous message."
Fun Fact: Games get made by normal people, not Santa Claus. The fact that you happen to still be breastfeeding does not, in fact, mean that throwing a tantrum will make everything you want magically come to pass. See, in the real world, making something takes "work". Not being able to psychically estimate an exact release date does not make Kyrieru a liar any more than making an anonymous complaint makes you important. Games have, and will continue to be, finished. The fact that you ignore this to complain about time-frame is just too comical to leave uncontested.
The clowns are clearly a minority-- lets not take them seriously. -_-"
ah really? i did not know he worked on other games, ive never heard of any, can you tell me which ones? also no. story is important but i never liked hw's writing style, also refrain from using cursing, it doesnt really help to get your point across, also no rule 34 is terrible, ive never been there and i never want to go
DeleteI like potatoes
Deletetheyre pretty great, protein and stuff, a pretty balanced vegetable,thanks for changing the mood, i like your style kid
Delete(im the anon being called an idiot)
The arrogance in this thread is real. "I don't like your style it sucks lel"
Deleteplease don't bring 3rd party to the conflict , it is unfair for them , and not good for discussion too.
DeleteHey, KY! I wish you good luck on your recent project, and with Noaika. I know your games top notch quality and it may take time.
ReplyDeleteCool, free game. You'll always have my support given your previous work. Should we have gotten the code already then? I did pre order quite some time ago so my email probably got lost given the lapse in time.
ReplyDeleteThe code you got for pre-ordering Noaika will just work with the game. Once the game has been released, if you need that code again just send me an email and I can re-send it.
DeleteOkay, will do if need be. Thanks again. :)
Deleteit is reasonable for you to charge much more due to the content and hard work you done, also the demo hows how promise this game will be. and by that I respect your decision.
ReplyDeleteStill better than DayZ standalone
ReplyDeleteWill the shorter game have a demo?
ReplyDeleteYeah, the demo will be along the same lines as Kurovadis or Eroico.
DeleteWhy not keep the Patreon just for donation purposes?
ReplyDeletelmao
ReplyDeleteI preordered Noaika :)
ReplyDeletei cant wait to get that game AND this game when it's finished 15 years from now
I already preordered Noakia, and also donating every anim. at patreon.
ReplyDeleteThen know what? I can spend all my time for waiting it.
Please, do everything what you want.
I'm donating YOU because you are one of brilliant creator, and I'm happy with it.:)
I get now why you had referred to it as a "secret thing" for so long, since the idea of you working on another game that could potentially delay Noaika is an idea some would prefer not to stomach, I for one am excited to see this "slightly less secretive thing" and you claim it will be done within the next month? happy birthday!
DeleteMight cheer you up or manage to depress you, but this reminds me of a post you'd made quite a long time ago.
http://www.kyrieru.com/2014/03/sigh.html
this one in fact, in which you said,
"About a week ago I began working on a new game. The idea is just to make something simple. Or rather, something I'm so familiar with that the development itself is simple."
the picture featured with that is obviously one of Noaika, so as time went on and the game had grown much more complex and had expanded so much, I always found it a little funny that it was probably Noaika in that original post.
Yeah, it did indeed start as something small. Funnily enough, if reactions to it were better in the initial demo I did with closed play-testing, I probably would have just finished it in that form.
DeleteI've been wondering by the way, what made you decide to go with the larger sprites? when I was looking at some of your older posts I was reminded of you bringing up something you'd called "high resolution fatigue" and how adding large sprites could sometimes make you apprehensive about adding more content because you'd then have to go through the tiresome process of making sprites for that content, so it made me wonder why you had decided to swap resolution in the middle of Noaika, considering you'd already had a bunch of content in it at that time? Granted, I don't understand game development.
ReplyDeleteWhile the sprites of Noaika are decently sized, the sprites of the game you're referring to were about twice the size, if I recall. They also had a lot more colors.
DeleteWith Noaika I changed the resolution because there was most of the H left to animate, and I found myself unsatisfied with the proportions of the character. Even then, though, it wasn't a very smart decision. I should have just stuck with it and finished the game as a smaller project.
If you prefer new proportions then , go settled thing.
Delete-and show us your true power already.
Really hoped it would have a male mc. Will there any other game which features a male mc?
ReplyDeleteYou´re not dump! Just Human! ; D Besides: I believe in you! Keep up the good . . . no . . . the AWESOME Work! XD (Ps. I mainly prefer Games with Girl protagonists) = P
ReplyDeleteThe screenshot looks nice. Yet I hope future games will have more of a visible face, that was always the best part in these weekly animation xoxoxo
ReplyDelete"What now?" Simple... -cracks whip-
ReplyDeleteLookin good
ReplyDeleteSo, what things remain to be done for Noaika? I'm really curious. Is the demo going to be any time soon?
ReplyDeleteThis is why devs shouldn't be making promises. You'll spend all your time trying to figure out a way to get out of the obligations. That and working on two games with weekly animations piling up at an astounding rate it's not a surprise to me that it would eventually have to get dealt with this way. Now, instead of apologizing for having no motivation it's time to put the hammer down on just one project and get it out in the wild; if this is in fact what you love to do. Get that demo out or this side project going, once you've crossed that off your checklist move on to the next project. It's all about achieving the smaller victories than releasing wave after wave of content.
ReplyDeleteFor the malcontents: stop, your vitriol is not helpful. Think then speak.
That looks cool. I wanna play it. I became a patron, since you only ask for a couple of bucks per animation. That's better than any other offer on Patreon.
ReplyDelete"I'll check who won the voting and open a poll tomorrow."
ReplyDeleteKy, I love you (no homo) but dang it, make a schedule or something.
Liking the look of the new game. Let people support you but perhaps avoid anything that forces you to give on a regular basis. It's the same with artists. They can give to people who support them if that's what they chose but ultimately it's up to them on what content they create and when.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, try to take it in a more relaxing direction after Noaika. Just don't feel obligated to be everyone's beck and call unless you actually owe them something from payment.
But again, whatever works for you.
I'm glad to see that this new game has realistic body proportions, because I'm not into chibi. It was also nice to discover that Noaika became less chibi since the demo.
ReplyDeleteKyrieru, Eroico and Kurovadis are just absolutely great games. Beautiful animation and gameplay. Love the old school edge that it certainly appears to have. You definitely have a mind for video games! I'm INCREDIBLY excited to see what your going to do with Noaika. I played the demo, and was thoroughly astonished at how smooth the game looks and feels. Dude, whatever you got going on for yourself, keep it up! Your hentai games rock :)
ReplyDeleteYou are a great game creator, is it by you self? or you have a team? but no matter what, I seriously enjoy your/you guys last few games. Please don't give up.
ReplyDeleteI'm working solo, for now. Don't plan on giving up on game development any time soon.
DeletePatroned just to check out this secret. :D I loved Eroico.
ReplyDeleteI mean, the game will be available to everyone to buy. People who supported the Patreon just get it for free.
ReplyDeleteGood to know, but you deserve the patronage anyway.
DeleteNoaika pre-order incentive hype!
ReplyDeleteHaha, nice!
Should have said bonus... forgot the pre-order thing was a time limited thing and no longer available.
DeleteUh... Noaika pre-order bonus hype!